Skywire Loop Antenna - full wave loop radio antenna
Skywire Loop Antenna
aka W0MHS Loop Skywire
aka Full Wave Loop Antenna

Observations by Jason Buchanan - N1SU


Some call it a Skywire Loop Antenna, some call it a W0MHS Loop Skywire Antenna, nowadays it's called a Full Wave Loop Antenna but it still is a force to be reckoned with. In the first couple hours of having it up I was able to hear stations I could not hear before - it is totally amazing. Your radio will love it.


13-Mar-07 - Updates to original article

My loop has been up for a while and I have some better data to work with. The bottom line is the skywire loop is an excellent antenna - they can be a bit of work to get up in the air if you have a lot of obstacles (trees, xyl, etc.) but it is worth it. So, on with the results:

The moral of this story is 544' is a great length for operating CW on 160 but not so great for operation on the upper bands. I have no trouble running legal limit on 20 meters but at 17 things warm up a little inside the tuner. At the upper end of 15 meters the balun inside the tuner gets hot after a while. I have a giant Dentron Super Super Tuner 3KW model which is about the size of a Drake L4 - i'm sure it could handle it but why risk blowing it up...

As of March 2007 the solar cycle is great for the length of my loop since 15, 12 and 10 meters are out of action. In a couple years the cycle will begin to swing in favor of 15 meters and i'll lengthen the loop.


Noise is greatly reduced with the loop compared to my dipoles. My dipoles are mounted on a pole at the end of the house and some of the noise may be due to their height (35 feet for the dipoles vs. 30 feet for the loop) and close proximity to the house and stuff inside. The loop is 40 feet or greater from the house in most places. The noise on 20 meters is sometimes reduced as much as 1 S unit when using the loop compared to the dipole (even at 3:00am when nothing in the house is on). Once in a while a station may be slightly stronger with the dipole but the noise is stronger too - weaker stations are easier to copy with the loop due to less noise.

Polarity plays a strange role. Buy a good copper knife switch with porcelain base and give yourself the means to quickly switch the polarity for A/B testing. I've found that the characteristics of the loop change considerably when you flip the polarity. On 20 meters my loop tends to try to radiate from the ladder line if the polarity is switched in one direction but works perfectly fine in a different direction. I just noticed this a few weeks ago but haven't had the time to nail it down. My 2-year old son keeps me busy with other things but eventually i'll figure it out.

Performance is exceptional as compared to a dipole but in some cases the dipole is better. The dipoles I have are mounted at approximately 35-38 feet, the loop is approximately 30 feet. Stations that are within 15 miles of my house usually perform better with the dipole - sometimes the loop won't hear them at all but DX stations are considerably stronger. I notice on the 20 meters WinDRM weekend net that a station 15 miles away from me will be S7 with the dipole and S3 or worse on the loop, yet the DX stations are always equal or better with the loop. The local station can't hear me well with the loop either but the local station copies me perfectly with the dipole. Remote DX stations report an improvement using the loop compared to the dipole. My grandfather Rod W4BI in southern Florida is considerably stronger when I use my dipole (technically it's an inverted vee with the center conductor angled 45 degrees to the ground) but DX to Washington state is far better on the loop. I'm in the Boston area so you can get a rough idea of the distances.

The loop really, really cuts the mustard on 160, 80 and 40 meters. Knowing what I know now, I probably would have cut the wire for 560' feet to make the upper bands work better and kept an eye on the tuner to make sure it wasn't getting hot - the only reason I would have done this is laziness so I wouldn't have to bother with splicing more wire in as the cycle improves. But 544' is fine - nothing to work on the upper bands right now anyway. I tried adding more ladder line to lengthen the feed line but that didn't seem to have any effect. I tried making the feed line shorter and that didn't seem to have any effect either. It works great as is so i'm leaving well-enough alone. hi



Original November 2006 article

Performance Observations

  • Despite my loop being at an average height of 25 feet it seems to have a better take-off angle than my dipoles at 40 feet.
  • Signal reports are usually equivalent or better with the loop than my 20 or 40 meter dipoles at 38-40 feet.
  • There are a few times when a signal is stronger on the dipole but not often and not by much, maybe 1 S unit.
  • QSB seems to be less of a problem with the loop than the dipole - the fades aren't as deep and sometimes not there at all while the dipole could be horrible.
  • The loop is a little quieter than the dipole, especially on the lower bands.
  • My loop is cut for 160m (544', 1874kc) but provides outstanding performance on 80m as if it were made specifically for 80m.
  • Forget about technical overviews, computerized modelling, 0+j ohms and theoretical analysis. These things are too big to accurately predict like a yagi. You can get a rough idea with modelling software but that software doesn't take into account how much the wire droops from the corners to the middle of each side, etc. The exception to this is corner-fed loops, they do have a strong lobe as the models predict. The bottom line is if you can put up a loop with the corners at least 25 feet high it'll work fine.


    It works all the bands

    It also works the whole band you're on and not just a small slice of it. I can work any portion of any band without performance compromise. I haven't really tried on 15 meters or higher but it certainly takes care of business on 160 through 20. I haven't had enough action on 17m to say for certain.

    21-Nov-06: I just worked HC8N quite easily on 30 meters with 100 watts - my first 30m contact ever. I didn't have a key, just bare leads, so I held each wire in each hand and keyed the rig by tapping the wires together with my fingers. Nevermind straight key, this was straight fingers!


    Progress

    10-Nov-06: Spent almost the entire day cutting trees, limbs, brush and climbing ladders to tie pulleys to trees and run the 544 feet of wire.

    11-Nov-06: Another 3 hours spent cutting more limbs and branches I didn't see near the end of the previous day.

    My loop is nearly square to my surprise. I thought I would not have enough land but as it turns out I have more than enough space for a 544 foot loop. If I do this again I will buy some cheap nylon rope and chart out the perimeter using the rope instead of "winging" it. I may also add another 20 feet to make it more resonant on 40 meters.

    The northwest corner is at the lowest elevation due to the terrain of the yard but the other three corners are all at equal height, about 30 feet. The east span has no center support so it droops down to about 20 feet off the ground - all other sides are supported by 2 or 3 pulleys in the middle to keep it as horizontal and high as possible.

    The feed point is in the middle of the south span at about 25 feet with ladder line running back to the shack.


    Common Misconceptions and Myths

    When I read about full wave loops, five things came to mind:

  • Tuners are a bother
  • Ladder line is a bother
  • It's too big
  • It's hard to put up
  • It isn't worth it

    I was wrong. A manual tuner is as easy as tuning a linear, ladder line is a very misunderstood jewel, there's no such thing as an antenna that is too big, it was fairly simple to put up (even in my woodsy yard) and the performance makes up for whatever negatives are left over.


    Skywire Loop Websites

  • Ladder Line Safety - important reading for anyone interested in using open line "ladder line"
  • Take a look at KA1FSB's loop antenna page for more details on what i'm doing
  • Notes on All-Band Use of Horizontal-Plane Loops L. B. Cebik, W4RNL - my loop's radiation pattern closely resembles the side-fed pattern shown on that page
  • Join the new SkyWires mailing list on Google Groups, or the original SkyWires Yahoo mailing list to discuss with other Skywire Loop hams

    Google Groups
    SkyWires
    Visit this group


    More W4RNL pages:

    Horizontally Oriented, Horizontally Polarized Large Wire Loop Antennas
    Horizontal Wire Loops size
    Some Notes on NVIS Cloud Burners
    Some NVIS: From the Backyard to Professional Installations
    More NVIS: Horizontal Heights


    Parts:

  • I get my antenna hardware from Craig K1QX of Radioware. Craig has excellent service, advice and selection of the stuff you need. My fullwave skywire loop is made up of WA1FFL Ladder Lock, 544' insulated Flex-Weave Antenna Wire held by 3/16" Dacron Rope. Craig has excellent service, advice and selection of the stuff you need.

  • Pulleys - get good ones. I use marine-grade Harken #224 micro block free running blocks (see West Marine for details). The #224 block is good for 200lbs and the sheave is delrin so conductivity should not be an issue even if the insulation wears through.


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    Skywire Loop Antenna - Updated: 20-Jul-07
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